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		<title>Comment on Eschatalogical Types: A Pre-Trib Rapture, Part 1 by Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 03:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Thanks, David. Saw this interesting article on the web just now. Lord bless.]

PRETRIB RAPTURE SECRETS

    How can the “rapture” be “imminent”? Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven (He&#039;s now there with the Father) “until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign. (&quot;The Rapture Question,&quot; by the long time No. 1 pretrib authority John Walvoord, didn&#039;t dare to even list, in its scripture index, the too-hot-to-handle Acts 3:21!) Since Jesus can’t even leave heaven before the tribulation ends (Acts 2:34,35 echo this), the rapture therefore can&#039;t take place before the end of the trib! (The same Acts verses were also too hot for John Darby - the so-called &quot;father of dispensationalism&quot; - to list in the scripture index in his &quot;Letters&quot;!)      
    Paul explains the “times and the seasons” (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the “day of the Lord” (5:2) which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening (Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN “sudden destruction” (5:3) of the wicked occurs! The &quot;rest&quot; for &quot;all them that believe&quot; is tied to such destruction in II Thess. 1:6-10! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who&#039;d be left alive to serve the Antichrist?) Paul also ties the change-into-immortality “rapture” (I Cor. 15:52) to the posttrib end of “death” (15:54). (Will death be ended before or during the trib? Of course not! And vs. 54 is also tied to Isa. 25:8 which is Israel&#039;s posttrib resurrection!)
   Many are unaware that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4’s “catching up” as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 this &quot;rapture&quot; was stretched forward and turned into a separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which the mass of evangelical scholars rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the “day of the Lord” (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward “rapture.” Many leading evangelical scholars still weren’t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the “falling away” of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the “rapture” in 2:3 must happen before the “rapture” [&quot;gathering&quot;] in 2:1 can happen – the height of desperation!).
   Other Google articles on the 182-year-old pretrib rapture view include &quot;Pretrib Rapture Politics,&quot; &quot;Pretrib Rapture Scholar Wannabes,&quot; “Famous Rapture Watchers,” &quot;Pretrib Rapture Diehards,&quot; “X-Raying Margaret,” &quot;Edward Irving is Unnerving,&quot; “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” &quot;Walvoord Melts Ice,&quot; “Wily Jeffrey,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “Scholars Weigh My Research,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” &quot;Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal,&quot; &quot;Thieves&#039; Marketing,&quot; &quot;Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,&quot; “Deceiving and Being Deceived,” &quot;Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,&quot; and &quot;Christ&#039;s return is NOT imminent!&quot; – all by the author of the bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” (see Armageddon Books).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Thanks, David. Saw this interesting article on the web just now. Lord bless.]</p>
<p>PRETRIB RAPTURE SECRETS</p>
<p>    How can the “rapture” be “imminent”? Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven (He&#8217;s now there with the Father) “until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign. (&#8220;The Rapture Question,&#8221; by the long time No. 1 pretrib authority John Walvoord, didn&#8217;t dare to even list, in its scripture index, the too-hot-to-handle Acts 3:21!) Since Jesus can’t even leave heaven before the tribulation ends (Acts 2:34,35 echo this), the rapture therefore can&#8217;t take place before the end of the trib! (The same Acts verses were also too hot for John Darby &#8211; the so-called &#8220;father of dispensationalism&#8221; &#8211; to list in the scripture index in his &#8220;Letters&#8221;!)<br />
    Paul explains the “times and the seasons” (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the “day of the Lord” (5:2) which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening (Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN “sudden destruction” (5:3) of the wicked occurs! The &#8220;rest&#8221; for &#8220;all them that believe&#8221; is tied to such destruction in II Thess. 1:6-10! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who&#8217;d be left alive to serve the Antichrist?) Paul also ties the change-into-immortality “rapture” (I Cor. 15:52) to the posttrib end of “death” (15:54). (Will death be ended before or during the trib? Of course not! And vs. 54 is also tied to Isa. 25:8 which is Israel&#8217;s posttrib resurrection!)<br />
   Many are unaware that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4’s “catching up” as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 this &#8220;rapture&#8221; was stretched forward and turned into a separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which the mass of evangelical scholars rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the “day of the Lord” (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward “rapture.” Many leading evangelical scholars still weren’t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the “falling away” of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the “rapture” in 2:3 must happen before the “rapture” ["gathering"] in 2:1 can happen – the height of desperation!).<br />
   Other Google articles on the 182-year-old pretrib rapture view include &#8220;Pretrib Rapture Politics,&#8221; &#8220;Pretrib Rapture Scholar Wannabes,&#8221; “Famous Rapture Watchers,” &#8220;Pretrib Rapture Diehards,&#8221; “X-Raying Margaret,” &#8220;Edward Irving is Unnerving,&#8221; “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” &#8220;Walvoord Melts Ice,&#8221; “Wily Jeffrey,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “Scholars Weigh My Research,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” &#8220;Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal,&#8221; &#8220;Thieves&#8217; Marketing,&#8221; &#8220;Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,&#8221; “Deceiving and Being Deceived,” &#8220;Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,&#8221; and &#8220;Christ&#8217;s return is NOT imminent!&#8221; – all by the author of the bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” (see Armageddon Books).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dan Morain and the Art of Avoiding the Issue by Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.davidchristopher.net/2012/02/dan-morain-and-the-art-of-avoiding-the-issue/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunately, you don&#039;t have to be wary of seedless oranges (or any fruit for that matter).  Seedless fruits are not GMO&#039;s but the industry has definitely propagated that idea because they want you to think of GMO&#039;s as something as normal as an orange without seeds.  In reality seedless oranges are typically the result of much more natural processes (hypridization) and don&#039;t require actual genetic tampering to get them.  Right now any genetically modified foods come from soy, corn, canola and cottonseed.  Any of these ingredients or ingredients derived from these items will almost certainly contain GMO&#039;s unless specifically stated otherwise on the product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately, you don&#8217;t have to be wary of seedless oranges (or any fruit for that matter).  Seedless fruits are not GMO&#8217;s but the industry has definitely propagated that idea because they want you to think of GMO&#8217;s as something as normal as an orange without seeds.  In reality seedless oranges are typically the result of much more natural processes (hypridization) and don&#8217;t require actual genetic tampering to get them.  Right now any genetically modified foods come from soy, corn, canola and cottonseed.  Any of these ingredients or ingredients derived from these items will almost certainly contain GMO&#8217;s unless specifically stated otherwise on the product.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dan Morain and the Art of Avoiding the Issue by Valdir</title>
		<link>http://www.davidchristopher.net/2012/02/dan-morain-and-the-art-of-avoiding-the-issue/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Valdir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard of GMO&#039;s but it seemed like it would be rellay hard to find food without them.  I always thought it seemed like a bad idea, but I was told one time that that&#039;s how we have things like seedless oranges.  I have to admit, that I rellay love not having seeds in my fruit, but if I thought about how dangerous the GMO&#039;s are, then I&#039;d deal with the seeds.  It just doesn&#039;t come to mind when I&#039;m shopping.  However, if the food was labeled GMO or Non-GMO then I would opt for the type that was not tampered with.Lisa McLellan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard of GMO&#8217;s but it seemed like it would be rellay hard to find food without them.  I always thought it seemed like a bad idea, but I was told one time that that&#8217;s how we have things like seedless oranges.  I have to admit, that I rellay love not having seeds in my fruit, but if I thought about how dangerous the GMO&#8217;s are, then I&#8217;d deal with the seeds.  It just doesn&#8217;t come to mind when I&#8217;m shopping.  However, if the food was labeled GMO or Non-GMO then I would opt for the type that was not tampered with.Lisa McLellan</p>
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		<title>Comment on Richard Dawkins Continues His Decline by Katinha</title>
		<link>http://www.davidchristopher.net/2012/02/richard-dawkins-continues-his-decline/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Katinha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evolution is a dead theory.Richard Dawkins has lost all ngourds There are 100 million fossils which show that animals which lived hundreds of million years ago are exactly the same as their current counterparts. This is clear evidence  against evolution. Also, natural selection does not have the capacity to change the genetic code on the DNA. The rabbits may run faster, and survive but they do not turn out to be other  more advanced  and  advantageous  creature because their DNA code is not effected. They die in the end along with their faster running legs. Lamarckism is already an outdated theory.Therefore, creation is a fact, evolution could not have happened. Besides, no graduation can explain the irreducible complexity in for instance body organs. Think of the blood, if all blood cells had presumably evolved without the hemoglobin molecule inside, what use? If the stomach did not have the protective tissue to prevent destroying itself due to hydrocholoric acid, what use? If all organs were there but you could not breathe with your lungs and the oxygen was not transferred to each one of your cells, what use?Please think once again before you decide. Evolution   really did not happen, cannot have happened   there is no evidence, no mechanism. But all findings and science indeed show that there is an anthropic principle behind the universe with incredibly fine tuned quarks in the atom, nuclear power in the nucleus of the atom, 3 billion lettered vast library with immense information in the DNA.Who encoded the DNA?Who made the quarks in the atom?Who set the oxygen in the atmosphere just in the right ratio so that we are not burnt to death?Who mixed water   soil and minerals to bring out thousands of vegetation and fruit with wonderful tastes and scents right from the dark earth?God is the Creator of every detail that we see in this universe, and we will see the intelligence and wisdom behind each and every created thing if we look with an open eye (heart).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evolution is a dead theory.Richard Dawkins has lost all ngourds There are 100 million fossils which show that animals which lived hundreds of million years ago are exactly the same as their current counterparts. This is clear evidence  against evolution. Also, natural selection does not have the capacity to change the genetic code on the DNA. The rabbits may run faster, and survive but they do not turn out to be other  more advanced  and  advantageous  creature because their DNA code is not effected. They die in the end along with their faster running legs. Lamarckism is already an outdated theory.Therefore, creation is a fact, evolution could not have happened. Besides, no graduation can explain the irreducible complexity in for instance body organs. Think of the blood, if all blood cells had presumably evolved without the hemoglobin molecule inside, what use? If the stomach did not have the protective tissue to prevent destroying itself due to hydrocholoric acid, what use? If all organs were there but you could not breathe with your lungs and the oxygen was not transferred to each one of your cells, what use?Please think once again before you decide. Evolution   really did not happen, cannot have happened   there is no evidence, no mechanism. But all findings and science indeed show that there is an anthropic principle behind the universe with incredibly fine tuned quarks in the atom, nuclear power in the nucleus of the atom, 3 billion lettered vast library with immense information in the DNA.Who encoded the DNA?Who made the quarks in the atom?Who set the oxygen in the atmosphere just in the right ratio so that we are not burnt to death?Who mixed water   soil and minerals to bring out thousands of vegetation and fruit with wonderful tastes and scents right from the dark earth?God is the Creator of every detail that we see in this universe, and we will see the intelligence and wisdom behind each and every created thing if we look with an open eye (heart).</p>
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		<title>Comment on G.L. Pease &#8211; Heirloom Series: Westminster by Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.davidchristopher.net/2012/01/g-l-pease-westminster/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called &#039;Adventure&#039; and the link is at the footer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called &#8216;Adventure&#8217; and the link is at the footer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on G.L. Pease &#8211; Heirloom Series: Westminster by Jeffrey Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.davidchristopher.net/2012/01/g-l-pease-westminster/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers for the material, and your web site genuinely looks fabulous. Just what word press theme are you employing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for the material, and your web site genuinely looks fabulous. Just what word press theme are you employing?</p>
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		<title>Comment on G.L. Pease &#8211; Heirloom Series: Westminster by Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.davidchristopher.net/2012/01/g-l-pease-westminster/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more, Drew. I&#039;ll be getting 4 tins in my next order :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more, Drew. I&#8217;ll be getting 4 tins in my next order <img src='http://www.davidchristopher.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on G.L. Pease &#8211; Heirloom Series: Westminster by drewcipher</title>
		<link>http://www.davidchristopher.net/2012/01/g-l-pease-westminster/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>drewcipher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westminster IS one of the greatest tins of pipe tobacco available. Definitely one to stock up on. Pipe tobac never, ever gets cheaper or more available so sock away as much as you can afford. This blend will disappear one day, as all great blends do, and hopefully you&#039;ll have many pounds of which to enjoy into retirement and beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westminster IS one of the greatest tins of pipe tobacco available. Definitely one to stock up on. Pipe tobac never, ever gets cheaper or more available so sock away as much as you can afford. This blend will disappear one day, as all great blends do, and hopefully you&#8217;ll have many pounds of which to enjoy into retirement and beyond.</p>
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		<title>Comment on G.L. Pease &#8211; Heirloom Series: Westminster by todays date</title>
		<link>http://www.davidchristopher.net/2012/01/g-l-pease-westminster/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>todays date</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 04:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The most beautiful pictures are those one dreams about when smoking pipes in bed, but which one will never paint.  -- Cyprien&quot;,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The most beautiful pictures are those one dreams about when smoking pipes in bed, but which one will never paint.  &#8212; Cyprien&#8221;,</p>
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